They tear families apart in the name of Jehovah.
Persons who disagree are labled crazy, demonized or both.
they are the only religion that i know of that disapprove of a college education.
they alone believe in the significance of 1914. they exclusively believe that christ jesus is michael the archangel.....to name a few.. what can you add to the list?.
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They tear families apart in the name of Jehovah.
Persons who disagree are labled crazy, demonized or both.
hello friends,.
sunday, 4 september 2011 will go down as an important day in my spiritual journey.
i had an extraordinary experience today that i feel compelled to share with all of you.
I am glad you are finding acceptance and comfort. What a difference from what we all felt at the Hall.
i am bringing this over from the "still no pants suits, for sisters" thread.. it's funny how i don't think much about healing from the jw's anymore.
i was not raised a jw.
i was only active for around 10 years.
When I look back now I can't believe the incredible journey life has become. The fear and bitterness gradually replaced by peace and confidence that I was making good choices on my own. When I first left I was afraid of everything, Armadgeddon, other witnesses finding out about my sins, etc.
Two things I learned that apply to witnesses and any other persons in your life "other people only have as much control over you as you allow, and other people will only treat you as poorly as you allow them to." With that I could take back control of my life, decisions, and everything else - I realised it was all up to me and I didn't have to allow the Witnesses any place in my life.
i am bringing this over from the "still no pants suits, for sisters" thread.. it's funny how i don't think much about healing from the jw's anymore.
i was not raised a jw.
i was only active for around 10 years.
It does fade in time. I have been out since 98 and I am happy, content and at peace with my life. Back then there was no peace I feel sorry for the sadness I see in my family's eye's (they are all still in). They are sad, tired, and lonely and I am the one at peace. It's all good........
there was a poster named jt that i'd read and relate to.
he was very experienced and i very much respected his point of view.
he left all the praise and authority he had because he simply knew it was all a crock.
There were alot of different posters along the way that helped me through my transition to normal life. I think one of the most profound experiences was entertaining everyone else's point of view whether I agreed or not. When I was in the organization I felt as though even listening to a contary point of view was wrong. But "listening" to the posters here made me realize I didn't have to agree with anyone - just decide what I thought was best. I used to visit chat on a regular basis back then. I've been out for ten years now and still read this site often - although I don't post often.
does anyone remember being a little kid and being forced to sit through those 2 hour meetings?
specifically being made to listen to graphic accounts of whatever country that was going through horrific persecution.
(or any other horrors you might remember).
Wow - I hadn't thought about any of this in a long time. I remember being sick with fear over the graphic details they would give about the torture techiniques, the one about having your fingernails pulled out and the bamboo shoots stuck with me. I lived in contstant fear when I was a child - if it wasn't Armageddon - it was displeasing Jehovah and ending up dead - or displeasing the elders and having your family taken away by disfellowshipping. It all seems so foreign now to me after having been out for 10 years.
within the great apes the male is always dominant.
as they are the highest on the evolutionary track next to man i think it proves that males are supposed to dominate women in all aspects of life.
Have you lost your mind?!?! Stereotyping male or female behavior is counterproductive for everyone involved. I am a woman who is guided by rational thoughts and not feelings. I am a member of senior management for the company I work for - and I am damn good at what I do. I don't think the patriarchy of the apes prove anything for humans. One would think humans as the more evolved species would have realized women are not better or worse than men - just different.
so this week on the service meeting there was a part in the km about divine education.
true to form, it was another anti-college, pro-pioneering propaganda piece put out by our buddies in brooklyn.. in the third paragraph, it babbled forth about how colleges and universities don't teach people to overcome racism, tribalism, and something else.
(someone please post scan on dec. 2005 km front page).
I can certainly relate. I traveled to a convention in Canada once with a girl who was homeschooled. As we were approaching the guard station where we cross she said " we dont have to do this when we go to any other state, why do we have to do it here?" I informed her Canada was another COUNTRY and she wanted to argue that Canada was part of the US. Hello?
i know many people will get angry at this, but i had to share some observations i've had since i discovered this board a couple of days ago (see my original post under "why all the venom?").
i'll be very honest and say that i was hoping that i would discover that the jw's were wrong about some things, including the so-called "apostate" sites (i have been recommended to some internet sites and some books that i plan to investigate further).
i was hoping to find that people really didn't need the jw's "spiritual food" to remain true to god.
It certainly hasn't been bad for me - leaving the JW's. I still believe in God and the Bible. For awhile after I left I was mad - mad at God - mad at the WT. But it faded with time and effort. I am not angry with God or the witnesses. My life now is one of peace and joy. I have a wonderful family, suppotive friends, rewarding career etc. God is still very much a part of my life and I pray to him daily. The difference is now it is heartfelt appreciation for his loving kindness instead of begging for forgiveness lest I be killed at Armageddon.
okay, what i want to know is honestly how many of you guys out there were actually attracted to the jw's because of the wifely submission thing?
and girls, how many of you actually had issues with the submission thing even when in the org.
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Most of the "brothers" I had dated while still in said that I was too head strong (their words not mine). I would laugh and move on. It was funny. One time one of the MS in the hall went to my father and told him that I was too head strong - my dad asked why he wasn't talking to me about it??? Of course I just wasn't submissive to anyone. There were brothers that would order me to do something (hello- not YOUR wife) I would very quickly tell them to do it themselves.